When I set about creating a new illustration, I literally surround myself with things that help create the right atmosphere and get myself into the right creative groove. In this case, I want to do a Beauty and the Beast piece. My sketch of Belle's face is in the middle and I surround my canvas with things that inspire me: illustration styles or screen shots from the movie that are capturing the right emotions or styles. I'm also either playing the movie or music from the movie to get into the groove. If it's not a fan art, then I will surround my illustration with things that have some artistic value that plays into what I am creating.
Very similarly to this video, I'll find my self saying the quotes and singing the song from the movies.
What's also strange is that when creating characters, I almost never create the head/body at the same time. I tend to draw both separately and then put them together like some sort of whimsical frankensteining.
Also, it's most likely that I need more sketching time, but my characters almost always look much different than the sketch. I typically just get the sketch close to what I think I like, then jump into illustrator. Then, iterate and tweak until I like what I see. This can sometimes take ages.
I typically never showed a lot of process, because, honestly, it doesn't get a lot of praise or likes, making me think it doesn't have a lot of value. Actually, I think that process has MUCH more value than final shots because of its teaching nature.
I think Dribbble needs to see more process — I'm really interested in the process of others. I'd love to see more of this from the people who create amazing.
This is so insightful @Rogie - You are sure right about processes, would be great to see how other people work, rather than the occasional cleaned up Ps document.
Here, here! I absolutely love when artists/designers post their process shots on this site (as attachments, links, videos, etc). Always great to see how different people tackle different challenges. Maybe even learn a trick or two.
YES. It's frustrating to see people talk about how no one uploads work-in-progress shots, posts comprehensive critique, etc. Be the change you want to see. Thanks for posting this, @Rogie!
Dribbble features a lot of excellent work, but, ultimately, it's generally used more as a portfolio of finished items than a place of criticism and learning. It's really refreshing to learn a bit more about the way you work and see something in progress.
Process shots have been my favorite for the past year or two. It's fascinating.
@Christopher Lee has a lot of nice ones that I'm really grateful for. Now I'm so happy you're sharing some of yours. I'd like to too but I think like you were saying, it feels like its not desired. IT IS!
Let me know when I'm being overkill @Rogie but I was inspired by your shot and thought instead of watching all the processes, I'd contribute. - this is a work in progress
Last night I felt a bit lost in my style. The past few weeks I've been doing a lot of web design and not much time for illustration which made me feel lost and non productive. So i wanted to get back to what i loved to do.
I try not to jump STRAIGHT into illustrator if i can help it because I feel cheap if i do. So I sketched for a bit, trying to do a self portrait of myself skateboarding. I sketched a while and threw some away and redid it, which is tough for me.
I brought it into photoshop, cleaned up the lines a bit (mainly levels) and started tracing in illustrator and left a few reference skateboarding photos around my canvas. After getting a general outline, i ditched the sketch layer and just started having fun and making my own details. I had a blast and am not close to done, but love the way it's coming out.
So there you have it, a real lazy and quick (ive gotta get some work done) process shot of a illustration from last night :)
Yeah, I think people get a little scared that they might loose cred or something for dumping something that isn't Teh utter embodiment of taste, refinement, and perfection on Dribbble. This does force you to really raise the bar on your own work, but it also limits a lot of the community/sharing/learning aspect that Dribbble could foster. It feels a little Marty McFly up in here like - "I don't know, what if they see my rough draft and tell me I'm no good. I just don't think I could handle that sort of rejection..."
...As if many designers just throw down utter perfection in the first pass of something.
Like honestly, a lot of my early rough stuff might make me look like a frikken papyrus menu n00b - so I wuss out on posting it until I feel it's extra-1337 D-Zine level eleventy!!1. That fails and it isn't real. I have a lot of bad design ideas early on that I wade through and weed out. Process is the bulk of design really (if you just go by the clock). It's totally worthy of sharing and will make for better designers all around.
@Rogie: I wholeheartedly agree on "MOARE PROCESS." That being said, isn't that what rebounds where for in the first place? To show the progress from one stage to the next? For instance, I've collected the whole process from sketches to final in this apparel design project.
@Simon H. actually, if i remember right, Rebounds were created because artists and designers like to critique or riff off of each others designs. They certainly can be used to create a chronological string of shots to show process, but I'm not sure thats what they were created to be.
100% with you on Dribbble missing the process, I think that's what Dribbble's all about, but unfortunately every day we see less of that and more finished products; which are usually awesome, but I miss seeing the process.
I love this @Rogie. I joined dribbble not too long ago and started with posting sketches but felt like I was not getting the love I was hoping for (just lack of likes I guess) because I wasn't showing off the hotness right away. When I really joined dribbble to sharpen my skills as there are SO MANY amazing artists on this site.
I just started using Vine to attempt to bring some of that back. We'll see how that works, but the point is I appreciate an artist with your status posting on this issue.
Also all your work IS HOTNESS...EVEN the process stuff...haha.
@Rogie Thanks for your thoughts on process dude! I think the most interesting part about my process is that I'm too lazy to use a a scanner for my sketches, and I just take a crappy, pixelated, low-lit iPod shot and email it to myself for my template in Illustrator. Not the cleanest method, but it gets the job done :)
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When I set about creating a new illustration, I literally surround myself with things that help create the right atmosphere and get myself into the right creative groove. In this case, I want to do a Beauty and the Beast piece. My sketch of Belle's face is in the middle and I surround my canvas with things that inspire me: illustration styles or screen shots from the movie that are capturing the right emotions or styles. I'm also either playing the movie or music from the movie to get into the groove. If it's not a fan art, then I will surround my illustration with things that have some artistic value that plays into what I am creating.
Very similarly to this video, I'll find my self saying the quotes and singing the song from the movies.
What's also strange is that when creating characters, I almost never create the head/body at the same time. I tend to draw both separately and then put them together like some sort of whimsical frankensteining.
Also, it's most likely that I need more sketching time, but my characters almost always look much different than the sketch. I typically just get the sketch close to what I think I like, then jump into illustrator. Then, iterate and tweak until I like what I see. This can sometimes take ages.
I typically never showed a lot of process, because, honestly, it doesn't get a lot of praise or likes, making me think it doesn't have a lot of value. Actually, I think that process has MUCH more value than final shots because of its teaching nature.
I think Dribbble needs to see more process — I'm really interested in the process of others. I'd love to see more of this from the people who create amazing.
4 months ago
This is so insightful @Rogie - You are sure right about processes, would be great to see how other people work, rather than the occasional cleaned up Ps document.
4 months ago
Here, here! I absolutely love when artists/designers post their process shots on this site (as attachments, links, videos, etc). Always great to see how different people tackle different challenges. Maybe even learn a trick or two.
4 months ago
@Rogie - Good to see someone else doing the same thing I do. Interesting tidbit about the head and the body being drawn separately. MOAR PROCESS!
4 months ago
John Kascht has a similar process, check it out, it's pretty inspiring to watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpUE-oMpjNE
4 months ago
Thanks for sharing, Rogie. I do a similar thing by pasting inspiration images surrounding the artboard.
I try to post a good amount of progress shots but I like your take on sharing the entire workspace. I just might do that.
4 months ago
@Daryl Ginn that video is incredible...but what's more incredible are his words...so insightful.
4 months ago
YES. It's frustrating to see people talk about how no one uploads work-in-progress shots, posts comprehensive critique, etc. Be the change you want to see. Thanks for posting this, @Rogie!
4 months ago
Thanks for sharing this, Rogie!
Dribbble features a lot of excellent work, but, ultimately, it's generally used more as a portfolio of finished items than a place of criticism and learning. It's really refreshing to learn a bit more about the way you work and see something in progress.
4 months ago
@Samuel Fine "be the change you want to see" is exactly what was going through my head as I posted this. Appreciate the encouragement.
4 months ago
Awesome I literally do the exact thing!
4 months ago
Process shots have been my favorite for the past year or two. It's fascinating.
@Christopher Lee has a lot of nice ones that I'm really grateful for. Now I'm so happy you're sharing some of yours. I'd like to too but I think like you were saying, it feels like its not desired. IT IS!
edit: I also really love @Dangerdom 's process write up on silkshare
4 months ago
Thanks for sharing!
4 months ago
Rebound
Skateboard self portrait process | Animated GIF
by Kirk Wallace
Let me know when I'm being overkill @Rogie but I was inspired by your shot and thought instead of watching all the processes, I'd contribute. - this is a work in progress
Last night I felt a bit lost in my style. The past few weeks I've been doing a lot of web design and not much time for illustration which made me feel lost and non productive. So i wanted to get back to what i loved to do.
I try not to jump STRAIGHT into illustrator if i can help it because I feel cheap if i do. So I sketched for a bit, trying to do a self portrait of myself skateboarding. I sketched a while and threw some away and redid it, which is tough for me.
I brought it into photoshop, cleaned up the lines a bit (mainly levels) and started tracing in illustrator and left a few reference skateboarding photos around my canvas. After getting a general outline, i ditched the sketch layer and just started having fun and making my own details. I had a blast and am not close to done, but love the way it's coming out.
So there you have it, a real lazy and quick (ive gotta get some work done) process shot of a illustration from last night :)
I'll upload more of it as it goes along.
Attaching a larger shot of the canvas too.
4 months ago
Yeah, I think people get a little scared that they might loose cred or something for dumping something that isn't Teh utter embodiment of taste, refinement, and perfection on Dribbble. This does force you to really raise the bar on your own work, but it also limits a lot of the community/sharing/learning aspect that Dribbble could foster. It feels a little Marty McFly up in here like - "I don't know, what if they see my rough draft and tell me I'm no good. I just don't think I could handle that sort of rejection..."
...As if many designers just throw down utter perfection in the first pass of something.
Like honestly, a lot of my early rough stuff might make me look like a frikken papyrus menu n00b - so I wuss out on posting it until I feel it's extra-1337 D-Zine level eleventy!!1. That fails and it isn't real. I have a lot of bad design ideas early on that I wade through and weed out. Process is the bulk of design really (if you just go by the clock). It's totally worthy of sharing and will make for better designers all around.
4 months ago
@Rogie: I wholeheartedly agree on "MOARE PROCESS." That being said, isn't that what rebounds where for in the first place? To show the progress from one stage to the next? For instance, I've collected the whole process from sketches to final in this apparel design project.
4 months ago
@Simon H. actually, if i remember right, Rebounds were created because artists and designers like to critique or riff off of each others designs. They certainly can be used to create a chronological string of shots to show process, but I'm not sure thats what they were created to be.
4 months ago
100% with you on Dribbble missing the process, I think that's what Dribbble's all about, but unfortunately every day we see less of that and more finished products; which are usually awesome, but I miss seeing the process.
4 months ago
@Rogie True that.
4 months ago
@Simon H. so cool of you to show all of that process on your project! Cheers.
4 months ago
I love this @Rogie. I joined dribbble not too long ago and started with posting sketches but felt like I was not getting the love I was hoping for (just lack of likes I guess) because I wasn't showing off the hotness right away. When I really joined dribbble to sharpen my skills as there are SO MANY amazing artists on this site.
I just started using Vine to attempt to bring some of that back. We'll see how that works, but the point is I appreciate an artist with your status posting on this issue.
Also all your work IS HOTNESS...EVEN the process stuff...haha.
4 months ago
@Rogie Thanks for your thoughts on process dude! I think the most interesting part about my process is that I'm too lazy to use a a scanner for my sketches, and I just take a crappy, pixelated, low-lit iPod shot and email it to myself for my template in Illustrator. Not the cleanest method, but it gets the job done :)
4 months ago
@Ryan Marshall THATS EXACTLY WHAT I DO!
4 months ago
Thank you for sharing this Rogie! That's awesomeness.
4 months ago
Thanks for posting this, I had similar thoughts recently on process: http://benhowdle.im/2013/02/15/the-unseen-revisions/
4 months ago