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Alen Type08 Pavlovic
Tangled with some Arabic for this project, done from scratch, went unused.
3 months ago
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Richard de Ruijter
Just curious, isn't it super hard to draw letters in a foreign language? I mean... i'm really interested as to how you went about this. Does not just apply to Arabic but for me it also applies to hebrew, cyrillic and chinese characters... I don't know if you're familiar with those languages but i would never know if i drew a glyph "right"...
Other than that i think this looks really balanced and beautiful!
3 months ago
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Muhammad Ali Effendy
Matzaman ?
3 months ago
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Isaac Grant™
Hmm.. I wonder why it didn't get used.
3 months ago
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Dalius Stuoka
I'm with @Richard de Ruijter on this one. I mean, how could I possibly know if what I drew is aesthetically pleasing and doesn't look awkward to the native speakers?.. Just a thought.
3 months ago
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Alen Type08 Pavlovic
@Muhammad Ali Effendy god bless you!
@Richard de Ruijter @Isaac Grant™ @Dalius Stuoka thanks guys for stopping by. You're completely right, the biggest challenge in these situations is to get things right. I don't have to mention that it takes a lot of research and analysis plus the fact that I don't have the Arabic keyboard, which would be the only way to use pre-installed Arabic fonts on the system. It's a kind of project where you go back and forth with the client checking about the legibility and readability throughout the process. Now I've been told that this was both readable and legible but I've parted ways here for other reasons. Speaking of, I would like to get my hands on something even more exotic now, like Korean or Japanese :)
3 months ago
I've always wanted to design the Russian alphabet in my typefaces, but not knowing even the first thing about the Russian language has always stopped me from doing so. I feel like if I study other fonts and research the language online to see how the letterforms themselves are supposed to look, I would just be copying an already-made font. I wouldn't be confident enough to "try something" with the forms because then I run the risk of it not looking like the letter that it's supposed to be.
It's definitely the type of thing we're I'm stuck between a rock and a hard place because I want to expand my horizons but also keep in mind originality.
3 months ago
Really nice project, thanks for posting! I love the geometric feel of the lettering and the consistent line weight, it has a really good, solid feel to it.
Also just wanted to add to the discussion about designing for other alphabets when you don't speak them. I think it's quite common (although obviously not easy) for typeface designers to cover Cyrillic, Russian, Devanagari, etc. without being native speakers. I can't find specific examples, but I know it's a topic that comes up a lot amongst the typeface designers on the Typophile forums. The typeface design masters course at Reading university for instance focuses a lot on non-latin scripts and many students produce typefaces in other alphabets, without having learned the language in the process. Of course, they get taught by specialists but it's no doubt possible to achieve a great deal yourself, if you put enough research and practice into it.
@Joe – If you think about it, you design extended latin diacritics for languages you don't speak, many/most of which require very specific placement, proportions, shapes, etc. to be correct. Technically, you could think of learning the Russian alphabet as a similar (although more difficult!) process.
(And sorry for the insanely long comment!)
3 months ago
Is this a client work or just for fun ?
3 months ago
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Alen Type08 Pavlovic
@Andrew Hesham please read the comments above. Why are you asking?
3 months ago
@Alen Type08 Pavlovic : I know this client :)
3 months ago
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Alen Type08 Pavlovic
@Andrew Hesham you know Shenouda?! Hehee, that's awesome, I've been working with him on a few projects since 2008, he's a cool guy :)
3 months ago