1. Went to a happy hour to see what it was all about. Upon telling people I'm primarily a web designer, I was met with mostly condescension and misunderstanding. Other local people I know have experienced the same.
2. I'm on an AIGA mailing list, where things like "make HTML emails with image maps in Dreamweaver" are thrown about, and mentions of usability/best practices for web/accessibility are ignored.
3. This article, which Dan's comments summed up nicely.
It seems like some chapters are really great (AIGA NY for instance), but I've given up. Dribbble has filled that void in a great way. I stay up to date on what people are working on, can share ideas, get feedback, mess around, etc.
I was the Tech Chair at AIGA Rhode Island for over 2 years. In that time I gained many designers friends & did some serious networking... but not many that I worked with on the board had an understanding of the internet. The events were never geared toward any type of new designer ("new media"), even after much request on my part. Oh wellllll.
It was a stupid article, but all of the hate and "NO AIGA" stuff over Steve's point of view is ridiculous.
AIGA IS the professional organization for design. Stop the hate. It was one article; they stand up for creatives too much for that one article to be a deal breaker.
@Jeff - It's always up to how hard the members want to push it. AIGA is what we make of it. We're trying to do a lot of interactive programming in 2011 here in Jax including ongoing web education for professionals. I understand your frustration though as I have heard it before, but we just gotta keep pushing to progress!
@Patrick - Oh absolutely. But there's most certainly a difference between enlightening people who wish to learn and trying to enlighten people on an issue they refuse to recognize as legitimate. Now you may think I'm exaggerating, but during the end of my term before I resigned, things got to the point where I was being stepped on by other board members because they didn't recognize/value my contribution.
And the problem runs deeper than local chapters obviously... We didn't run our site on the AIGA Internet Kit because quite frankly it was Archaic in terms of functionality and usability. No matter how many requests & suggestions me and my team put into national, nothing improved. I think they just now implemented a facebook like button (or something) when we had suggested similar functionality years ago.
I know pushing for progress needs to be done, but when you're giving hundreds of dollars a year for a membership, paying additional money for events, and the only thing you get in return is a salary report that includes web designers, it's insulting.
I'd like to hear more of what you have going on over there though, glad to see there's at least some advancement somewhere!
Why blame Dribbbble for causing a problem when the users have to actively participate in the wrong-doing themselves? It's not like Dribbble magically shares private, NDA contract work without someone clicking the "Submit" button.
30 Responses (page 1 of 2)
http://aiga.org/content.cfm/off-the-dribbble-has-sharing-gone-out-of-bounds
over 1 year ago
Pro
Zach Inglis
That is such ridiculous. I expected so much better.
over 1 year ago
Wait - are you sharing client work that you're doing for AIGA?? Don't you know that's against the rules?
over 1 year ago
Pro
David Sizemore
MOBILIZE THE INTERNETS!!!
over 1 year ago
Dan’s comment on the AIGA post is perfect.
over 1 year ago
And let the web revolt
over 1 year ago
I can see both sides of the argument but it certainly took more thought and effort to write that post than it did to make this image.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Ethan Marcotte
“Design organization discovers images can be posted online, declares internet ethically problematic. News at 11.”
over 1 year ago
Rebound
Dribbble vs AIGA
by Dustin Senos
I love design’s ability to convey meaning through a combination of colour and shape.
Yesterday, this Dribbble would have made no sense.
over 1 year ago
Pro
David Sizemore
No, yours is better!
over 1 year ago
Rebound
Aiga
by Erica Heinz
I did not even Photoshop their page.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Michael Aleo
My AIGA experiences:
1. Went to a happy hour to see what it was all about. Upon telling people I'm primarily a web designer, I was met with mostly condescension and misunderstanding. Other local people I know have experienced the same.
2. I'm on an AIGA mailing list, where things like "make HTML emails with image maps in Dreamweaver" are thrown about, and mentions of usability/best practices for web/accessibility are ignored.
3. This article, which Dan's comments summed up nicely.
It seems like some chapters are really great (AIGA NY for instance), but I've given up. Dribbble has filled that void in a great way. I stay up to date on what people are working on, can share ideas, get feedback, mess around, etc.
over 1 year ago
@Michael
I was the Tech Chair at AIGA Rhode Island for over 2 years. In that time I gained many designers friends & did some serious networking... but not many that I worked with on the board had an understanding of the internet. The events were never geared toward any type of new designer ("new media"), even after much request on my part. Oh wellllll.
over 1 year ago
Haters gonna hate.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Patrick Carter
It was a stupid article, but all of the hate and "NO AIGA" stuff over Steve's point of view is ridiculous.
AIGA IS the professional organization for design. Stop the hate. It was one article; they stand up for creatives too much for that one article to be a deal breaker.
over 1 year ago
I’m pro AIGA and served on the board of the New York chapter as Vice President for two years.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Patrick Carter
Yeah, I saw that on yours and AIGANY site.
Seems to be quite a polarizing subject. Will be interesting to see what their follow up article says.
over 1 year ago
AIGA is fighting for what little influence they have left.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Michael Aleo
@Jeff Golenski
Sounds about par for the course, unfortunately.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Patrick Carter
@Jeff - It's always up to how hard the members want to push it. AIGA is what we make of it. We're trying to do a lot of interactive programming in 2011 here in Jax including ongoing web education for professionals. I understand your frustration though as I have heard it before, but we just gotta keep pushing to progress!
over 1 year ago
@Patrick - Oh absolutely. But there's most certainly a difference between enlightening people who wish to learn and trying to enlighten people on an issue they refuse to recognize as legitimate. Now you may think I'm exaggerating, but during the end of my term before I resigned, things got to the point where I was being stepped on by other board members because they didn't recognize/value my contribution.
And the problem runs deeper than local chapters obviously... We didn't run our site on the AIGA Internet Kit because quite frankly it was Archaic in terms of functionality and usability. No matter how many requests & suggestions me and my team put into national, nothing improved. I think they just now implemented a facebook like button (or something) when we had suggested similar functionality years ago.
I know pushing for progress needs to be done, but when you're giving hundreds of dollars a year for a membership, paying additional money for events, and the only thing you get in return is a salary report that includes web designers, it's insulting.
I'd like to hear more of what you have going on over there though, glad to see there's at least some advancement somewhere!
over 1 year ago
Pro
Patrick Carter
I'm totally with you, man. We run ours (http://aigajacksonville.org) on expressionengine, the web kit is junk.
It's easier to control impact on the local level. National is admittedly behind with the web side of things.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Joshua Sortino
Guns don't kill people. People kill people.
Why blame Dribbbble for causing a problem when the users have to actively participate in the wrong-doing themselves? It's not like Dribbble magically shares private, NDA contract work without someone clicking the "Submit" button.
over 1 year ago
Pro
Gavan Brown
How to commit career suicide as an organization:
1) Identify a tool that is loved by your community.
2) Call it immoral and stupid.
over 1 year ago
effing LOL
over 1 year ago