Here after what I consider good positions of the grave compared to circumflex. (typefaces created between 1993 and 2010: Ambroise, Le Monde Livre Classic, Allumi, Parisine, Le Monde Courrier, Apolline)
Nice list of typefaces Jean. I'm just curious, and I know I haven't even scratched the surface in the world of typography, but the graves seem just a little close to the letters themselves. I understand that the diacritics on capital letters sit lower than those on lowercase letters, but it seems that when scaled down at 10 pt or even 12 pt the diacritic would almost mesh with the character.
Please school me on this though, I'm ready to learn from the master :)
@Joe Prince You should look at old typeface specimens, and various literature about type history!
On caps, accents can be even designed as integral part of the letter, without any space. Like that: http://zecraft.com/fonts/singulier (Check ÉTÉ.)
For lowercases, to be close, help legibility of the words sets. The accents are not decorative things but clear elements of differentiation who help the meaning of the words, like the ascender of h help to distinguish from the n. Accents are crucials, it change a word and his meaning. Accents are not just there to help to pronounce words, they built clearly differents letters.
That's fascinating, appreciate you taking the time to explain. Hearing first-hand from someone is priceless and can't be achieved by just searching in Google (not to say it's not helpful searching online, but hearing from you is much better).
I have to rethink some of my glyphs that I'm working on now :) You are a true gentleman, Jean. Thanks for sharing.
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Jean François Porchez
Here after what I consider good positions of the grave compared to circumflex. (typefaces created between 1993 and 2010: Ambroise, Le Monde Livre Classic, Allumi, Parisine, Le Monde Courrier, Apolline)
5 months ago
Nice list of typefaces Jean. I'm just curious, and I know I haven't even scratched the surface in the world of typography, but the graves seem just a little close to the letters themselves. I understand that the diacritics on capital letters sit lower than those on lowercase letters, but it seems that when scaled down at 10 pt or even 12 pt the diacritic would almost mesh with the character.
Please school me on this though, I'm ready to learn from the master :)
5 months ago
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Jean François Porchez
@Joe Prince You should look at old typeface specimens, and various literature about type history!
On caps, accents can be even designed as integral part of the letter, without any space. Like that: http://zecraft.com/fonts/singulier (Check ÉTÉ.)
For lowercases, to be close, help legibility of the words sets. The accents are not decorative things but clear elements of differentiation who help the meaning of the words, like the ascender of h help to distinguish from the n. Accents are crucials, it change a word and his meaning. Accents are not just there to help to pronounce words, they built clearly differents letters.
Examples from Excoffon, see accents on caps and few others examples:
http://typofonderie.com/gazette/post/roger-excoffon-a-part-of-the-mythology-of-french-typography
5 months ago
That's fascinating, appreciate you taking the time to explain. Hearing first-hand from someone is priceless and can't be achieved by just searching in Google (not to say it's not helpful searching online, but hearing from you is much better).
I have to rethink some of my glyphs that I'm working on now :) You are a true gentleman, Jean. Thanks for sharing.
5 months ago
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Jean François Porchez
@Joe Prince @Dribbble is a good place to share ideas, specially with images. Its much more easy.
5 months ago
“ooooooo, these are nice” ;-)
4 months ago