One year later.
Edit: here's some words on the subject.
5 months ago
Epic change. Totally defines who you are.
That cat. :)
May I ask the relevance/significance of the mark? I get that you're drawing a parallel between physical tools for manufacturing products with yourself as a builder of web products, but does it mean anything beyond that? I don't dislike it, I just wonder if there could be something more personal to it.
@Dennis P Kramer rather than try and explain it while I’m all sleepy, you can read this. It pretty much explains everything behind my choosing that symbol to represent myself.
@Dan Eden Man you got a post about everything. I'm glad to see the mentality that fueled your decision to choose this mark and the way you approach personal projects. Very inspiring.
@Dan, of course I love the monogram design, and the photos (they're excellent, I wish I had your photographic skill), but I'm with @Dennis, I'm finding it difficult to see relevance. Yes it relates to your post about building, and quality, and craftsmanship etc, I get all that.
But using this as a mark that people recognise as "Oh this monogram of these tools means the work is by Dan Eden", would be a bit hard to pull off I feel, unless you make it absolutely clear and evident that they link to you, and not to something like say a Builder's Union or something that'd use a similar monogram. It would have to be almost documented clearly and spread out to a big majority of people, so within that group, you'd be recognised for the mark. Or else it's unknown that it is linked to you.
What I'm saying is it's almost like not getting an inside joke, I mean, those of us who know you and know your work will know you've begun to use this recently on your portfolio, but to the people who don't know you at all, they may think "Tools? What does tools have to do with this?".
It's almost (the idea of tools as a mark), dare I say it a bit generic, and could be used by almost anyone, like a physical builder (not trying to call your work generic, no no no no, its just this particular mark).
But your "D" monogram, now that I feel is unique and individual, it stands out, even though a "D" is a generic letter, and is used plenty of times in logos, the way you've styled it is individual, and exclusive compared to the others, hence it is recognizable as Dan Eden's "D" monogram. The tools is like Dan Eden's generic tools symbol. The "D" monogram has warmth and heart and feeling.
To the people who don't know Dan Eden, how can they extract from this monogram on its own that it's Dan Eden's? How can they extract emotion and personality and a human touch out of it?
Another thought (sorta on topic), what about hands? We build with our hands, tools are an extension. It's hands that have the human quality to it, the warmth, whereas tools are cold, mechanical (wooden tools have warmth though, I'll give them that). Hands also give a human connection, seeing tools on your site or on a business card is almost like a disconnect between the person wanting to communicate with you, they have to get past this mechanical border to get to the personal, human Dan.
Sorry for the essay haha, just some thoughts I wanted to dump here. I'm trying to give you some constructive criticism (at least I hope it comes across like that), and challenge you a lil' (lecturers have done that to me and that has helped me broaden my view and see things in a different light. I'm trying to be that guy that shows you another view, I guess.).
It's completely up to you though, as I've been taught: You're the designer. You are. So call the shots, make the decisions, be confident and stick with that. Show us how it's done. So you decide :)
I'm lost because the timer delay is way too fast.
@Louis Bullock Don't you have anything else to do? Just sayin... :P
No offense to you Dan, but I don't understand why this shot is being liked so much and is here on Dribbble. It's a bunch of photos overlayed with one glyph of tools.
@Vaibhav ☁ Lol I should get paid to write this much.
@Dan, I hope what I've said comes across as being constructive, I hope I don't sound crabby or anything. And I've said it 'cos I know that you're willing to adapt and change and listen to other opinions etc, a quality I commend you for :)
@Vaibhav ☁ It's simple, but also a really neat idea, and one I hadn't seen before Dan's original upload a year ago. Worth remembering that it'll all be his photography, and his mark design also.
It's more worthy of likes than some generic UI, that's for sure. ;)
@Louis Bullock, THAT'S how you do constructive criticism
@Vaibhav ☁ Totally, because Dribbble should just be UI and iOS icon shots right? If you read that comment back, surely you see it's pretty insulting? If you don't like a shot simply don't comment on it - but to question it being posted on the site? Unnecessary.
Dan - lovely photos man, you've really got an eye for composition.
@Adam Whitcroft I know where you're coming from, but this shot doesn't even settle on the photography side. If he wanted to combine his great talent in photography with design it would be cool. But the images are going too fast to see anyways, so I can't see what the point of the shot is. What are we supposed to see..?
@Vaibhav ☁ no offence, but I don't really understand why your comment is there. Both your comments, rather. If you think my work is inappropriate for Dribbble, then mark it as such. I'm almost certain that the comments area is for constructive criticism. I'm sure that @Louis Bullock does in fact have better things to be doing, but the fact he took the time out to deconstruct my work is something I appreciate.
@Dan Eden Okay, so my comment to @Louis Bullock is an inside joke, something do with his feedback on one of my previous shots a while back. Don't take offense from that one. As for the other one, read my latest comment to @Adam Whitcroft. I usually enjoy your stuff, but this doesn't settle on design nor photography. I was just curious as to what we're supposed to get from this.
@Vaibhav ☁ I'd be happy to continue this conversation via email, but like I said I'd prefer to keep the comments constructive and relevant to the work itself rather than a discussion of Dribbble's purpose. (The work itself in this case being the mark)
@Dan Eden If you put this on your iPhone, took a photo of you holding it, then uploaded it, i think @Vaibhav ☁ would absolutely love it!
Anyway, the mark looks great Dan.. you know i'm a fan of the epileptic fit giving GIFs! Nice to see something different on here!
@Olly Sorsby Don't forget the 100px bevel with a 40px satin and just a tad of inner glow. And also a rainbow gradient.
Awesome work Dan, absolutely loving this
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