hey @Rich Scott, had this thought in my head when I saw your posts. Quickly jotted it down in Illustrator...hope you don't mind. Love the marks you've developed for Hashtag so far!
Thanks @Nikita Prokhorov and @Allan Grinshtein. We still have not arrived at any conclusion yet. I have had more seamless experiences : )
To quote the client regarding my concepts: "I would like to go back to the drawing board please. So far, I don't feel like the logos you have created were representative of the quality that I saw on your website".
@Rich Scott I don't want to hurt your feelings in any way, but as much as I like your work, I think your client is right on this one.
You've done so many wonderful marks, but these two in particular are not as good as your normal standards. The first one is too simple and looks like it was kind of rushed, while the second proposal is definitely better, but a bit too confusing.
I have a feeling the client has misdirected you somewhere along the way. We've gotta remember that 'clients' are the most subjective people we will come across and that their vision could fluctuate at any given turn. Sometimes what they like today could be totally different the next and sometimes our mind reading powers might be a little off.
Its only two misses. But you'll get them. I'm pretty damn sure of that.
Thanks for the comments guys. @Matej Latin Sorry to hear that about your client! That happened to me a few times.. 'back in the day', but now I always ask for 50% deposit for my time.
@Daniel Keller Thanks man. Yes I liked this one as well. Was proud to present this and some variations. Also describing to the client how all the largest/well known brands are unique custom fonts... But he was uninterested.
@Stefano Slomma I appreciate your honesty. Thanks Stefano. Please don't worry about my feelings.. I was a door to door salesman at one time : )
For all projects I put my heart and soul into it... most times it comes off, sometimes not, that's okay because the creative process is fickle. I have gone through my usual process of researching, reading the brief again and again, sketching, more sketching, vectorising, etc. Maybe this time I am just not 'getting it'.
Below is an expert from the client's previous mail to give you some more background:
"I want to give the image that we are changing the rules of the way Artist Management companies run. Professional, yet... NEW, with an edge, a rebellion from the conventional ways of artist management... you know? It also needs to represent... VIRAL, NETWORK, chic, worth, value, strong company, strong clients".
Do you think I am way off the mark with these concepts? : ) I don't know but would be interested to hear from you guys.
@Norman Chan Thanks Norm! I don't know, it could be me who is misdirected but it's not for a lack of trying. Actually frustration level is higher due to four concepts/four rejections now. These were my favourite two concepts. One was a 're-hash' (pun intended) of the clients original logo and the other wasn't that flash.
Hmm...now we know abit about the brief. Just throwing it out there Rich...'Graffiti' or street art, something abit grungy but still be modern and contemporary at the same time. Honestly I think ya need to get high for this.
Door to door salesman. Back in the day, the whole sorry bunch of us was affectionately called 'the Wandering Lepers' and that is just being nice! Yep been there done that, anything to pay the rent in arrears back then. Good to know that you and I have the same thick skin brother!
@Rich Scott Reading the brief, the first thing that came to my mind was the wordmark slamming (like a violent landing from the top to the bottom) through an invisible wall, where the broken pieces were made from musical symbols.
Interesting ideas guys thanks. @Norman Chan I did think of a 'street art' style first off but thought that was too obvious, but yes that would work. If I can't get this @Stefano Slomma then maybe I can transfer my client to you! ; )
Here is another concept for Hashtag Management. With help from you guys : ) Do you think this is a better direction? I thought this time I would show on Dribbble first then later to the client...
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Rich Scott
Totally different direction. A custom word-mark proposal. Again rejected : (
6 months ago
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Allan Grinshtein
This is really cool. What was the version the client went with?
6 months ago
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Hashing out the Hashtag
by Nikita Prokhorov
hey @Rich Scott, had this thought in my head when I saw your posts. Quickly jotted it down in Illustrator...hope you don't mind. Love the marks you've developed for Hashtag so far!
6 months ago
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Rich Scott
Thanks @Nikita Prokhorov and @Allan Grinshtein. We still have not arrived at any conclusion yet. I have had more seamless experiences : )
To quote the client regarding my concepts: "I would like to go back to the drawing board please. So far, I don't feel like the logos you have created were representative of the quality that I saw on your website".
... That's pretty motivating, hey!? ; )
6 months ago
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Matej Latin
I'm sure you'll produce a design to shut their mouth ;) Don't be bothered by their comments.
I had a similar situation with a client like that and it didn't end well. But they still used the design and never payed me...
6 months ago
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Muhammad Ali Effendy
Rejected again :(
6 months ago
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Allan Grinshtein
@Rich Scott "I'll solve your problem for you, and you will pay me." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb8idEf-Iak&t=163
6 months ago
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Daniel Keller
how can someone reject this? I would go into this direction if I were the client, but who understands clients anyway..
6 months ago
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Stefano Slomma
@Rich Scott I don't want to hurt your feelings in any way, but as much as I like your work, I think your client is right on this one.
You've done so many wonderful marks, but these two in particular are not as good as your normal standards. The first one is too simple and looks like it was kind of rushed, while the second proposal is definitely better, but a bit too confusing.
6 months ago
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Norman Chan
I have a feeling the client has misdirected you somewhere along the way. We've gotta remember that 'clients' are the most subjective people we will come across and that their vision could fluctuate at any given turn. Sometimes what they like today could be totally different the next and sometimes our mind reading powers might be a little off.
Its only two misses. But you'll get them. I'm pretty damn sure of that.
6 months ago
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Rich Scott
Thanks for the comments guys. @Matej Latin Sorry to hear that about your client! That happened to me a few times.. 'back in the day', but now I always ask for 50% deposit for my time.
@Daniel Keller Thanks man. Yes I liked this one as well. Was proud to present this and some variations. Also describing to the client how all the largest/well known brands are unique custom fonts... But he was uninterested.
@Stefano Slomma
I appreciate your honesty. Thanks Stefano. Please don't worry about my feelings.. I was a door to door salesman at one time : )
For all projects I put my heart and soul into it... most times it comes off, sometimes not, that's okay because the creative process is fickle. I have gone through my usual process of researching, reading the brief again and again, sketching, more sketching, vectorising, etc. Maybe this time I am just not 'getting it'.
Below is an expert from the client's previous mail to give you some more background:
"I want to give the image that we are changing the rules of the way Artist Management companies run. Professional, yet... NEW, with an edge, a rebellion from the conventional ways of artist management... you know? It also needs to represent... VIRAL, NETWORK, chic, worth, value, strong company, strong clients".
Do you think I am way off the mark with these concepts? : ) I don't know but would be interested to hear from you guys.
6 months ago
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Rich Scott
@Norman Chan Thanks Norm! I don't know, it could be me who is misdirected but it's not for a lack of trying. Actually frustration level is higher due to four concepts/four rejections now. These were my favourite two concepts. One was a 're-hash' (pun intended) of the clients original logo and the other wasn't that flash.
6 months ago
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Norman Chan
Hmm...now we know abit about the brief. Just throwing it out there Rich...'Graffiti' or street art, something abit grungy but still be modern and contemporary at the same time. Honestly I think ya need to get high for this.
Door to door salesman. Back in the day, the whole sorry bunch of us was affectionately called 'the Wandering Lepers' and that is just being nice! Yep been there done that, anything to pay the rent in arrears back then. Good to know that you and I have the same thick skin brother!
6 months ago
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Stefano Slomma
@Rich Scott Reading the brief, the first thing that came to my mind was the wordmark slamming (like a violent landing from the top to the bottom) through an invisible wall, where the broken pieces were made from musical symbols.
6 months ago
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Rich Scott
Interesting ideas guys thanks. @Norman Chan I did think of a 'street art' style first off but thought that was too obvious, but yes that would work. If I can't get this @Stefano Slomma then maybe I can transfer my client to you! ; )
5 months ago
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Hashtag #3
by Rich Scott
Here is another concept for Hashtag Management. With help from you guys : ) Do you think this is a better direction? I thought this time I would show on Dribbble first then later to the client...
5 months ago