Considering dropping Engebrechtre (current) as the logo typeface, but there are a couple of complications:
1: The subtitle for the header works best in Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold.
2: The logo does _not_ work in regular Helvetica.
3: The combination of logo in Engebrechtre and subtitle in HNCB is really, really nice (IMO).
So, hereby this dribbble: what are your thoughts on Engebrechtre for the font?
Engebrechtre doesn't feel like the right fit to me- it feels somewhat dated. Not that I'm suggesting it needs to be "futuristic" or anything like that, but Engebrechtre has an almost art deco feel to it.
I'm always a sucker for Helvetica Neue, but perhaps there's a suitable alternative... something like Tee Franklin, maybe?
So, another issue that I forgot to mention: Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold does not exist on Windows, and I'm not using a web font to include it—I'm already including an extended other font, need to keep download sizes small. So on Windows, I have to resort to either Impact or, shudder, Arial Narrow. Not sure how great H.Neue goes with _that_…
Engebrechtre didn't rub me the right way. RIGHT?
Actually, probably because it felt too OS 9 Chicago or Charcoal to feel contemporary. ;) I mean, it *is* a "modern" product/service, right?
At some point, the typeface shouldn't matter, though. Whichever face is displayed as the default sans-serif in bold will work fine. If it's to be a logotype or wordmark proper, then make it an image.
I'm not privy to all of the considerations involved, but perhaps one of those attack angles will work for you.
If you’re using Engebrechtre and HNCB now and they’re not embeddable, then why does it matter if a replacement is embeddable?
I agree with Jason and Luke that Engebrechtre is severely dated looking. If I didn’t know anything about Modernizr, I would probably consider another solution because of how unmodern the logotype is portrayed. (Frankly, Engebrechtre is a poorly executed excuse for a Deco-esque display face anyway … but that’s just my opinion.)
Sticking with a single, clean sans family is the way to go. If you’re looking at something that’s embeddable, I suggest either Proxima Nova or Museo Sans. Both have lots of range in terms of colour and density, plus true italics.
@Grant: what about Proxima Nova in combination with Skolar for headings on the page? (and also using PN for the body type, since it’s too similar to HNeue to use both comfortably)
Absolutely. Skolar would work well with Proxima Nova, as it has a very even colour to it. It’ll match nicely with the uniform stroke of Proxima. Both families are nicely tuned specifically for the web and are very legible even at the smaller sizes.
I'm going to back Grant here, for what it's worth: Proxima Nova and Skolar share a roughly identical heritage in terms of glyph skeleton, and so go well together very nicely. I think it'll be a beauty of a combination. And the low-res optimisation for both is a requirement, I would say.
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Considering dropping Engebrechtre (current) as the logo typeface, but there are a couple of complications:
1: The subtitle for the header works best in Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold.
2: The logo does _not_ work in regular Helvetica.
3: The combination of logo in Engebrechtre and subtitle in HNCB is really, really nice (IMO).
So, hereby this dribbble: what are your thoughts on Engebrechtre for the font?
over 1 year ago
For some reason, those Engebrechtre samples remind me of Poirot.
over 1 year ago
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Jason Reed
Engebrechtre doesn't feel like the right fit to me- it feels somewhat dated. Not that I'm suggesting it needs to be "futuristic" or anything like that, but Engebrechtre has an almost art deco feel to it.
I'm always a sucker for Helvetica Neue, but perhaps there's a suitable alternative... something like Tee Franklin, maybe?
http://www.fontspring.com/fonts/suomi-type/teefranklin
over 1 year ago
So, another issue that I forgot to mention: Helvetica Neue Condensed Bold does not exist on Windows, and I'm not using a web font to include it—I'm already including an extended other font, need to keep download sizes small. So on Windows, I have to resort to either Impact or, shudder, Arial Narrow. Not sure how great H.Neue goes with _that_…
over 1 year ago
Engebrechtre didn't rub me the right way. RIGHT?
Actually, probably because it felt too OS 9 Chicago or Charcoal to feel contemporary. ;) I mean, it *is* a "modern" product/service, right?
At some point, the typeface shouldn't matter, though. Whichever face is displayed as the default sans-serif in bold will work fine. If it's to be a logotype or wordmark proper, then make it an image.
I'm not privy to all of the considerations involved, but perhaps one of those attack angles will work for you.
over 1 year ago
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Grant Hutchinson
If you’re using Engebrechtre and HNCB now and they’re not embeddable, then why does it matter if a replacement is embeddable?
I agree with Jason and Luke that Engebrechtre is severely dated looking. If I didn’t know anything about Modernizr, I would probably consider another solution because of how unmodern the logotype is portrayed. (Frankly, Engebrechtre is a poorly executed excuse for a Deco-esque display face anyway … but that’s just my opinion.)
Sticking with a single, clean sans family is the way to go. If you’re looking at something that’s embeddable, I suggest either Proxima Nova or Museo Sans. Both have lots of range in terms of colour and density, plus true italics.
over 1 year ago
@Grant: what about Proxima Nova in combination with Skolar for headings on the page? (and also using PN for the body type, since it’s too similar to HNeue to use both comfortably)
over 1 year ago
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Grant Hutchinson
Absolutely. Skolar would work well with Proxima Nova, as it has a very even colour to it. It’ll match nicely with the uniform stroke of Proxima. Both families are nicely tuned specifically for the web and are very legible even at the smaller sizes.
over 1 year ago
I'm going to back Grant here, for what it's worth: Proxima Nova and Skolar share a roughly identical heritage in terms of glyph skeleton, and so go well together very nicely. I think it'll be a beauty of a combination. And the low-res optimisation for both is a requirement, I would say.
over 1 year ago
Thanks Grant & Rob! I'm going with Proxima Nova + Skolar, they seem a perfect fit & combination for Modernizr.
over 1 year ago
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Grant Hutchinson
Rawk.
over 1 year ago
This is excellent news, Faruk. Great choices, all.
over 1 year ago