First draft of a tattoo design for my wife that incorporates our kids first initials. Still working out the thicks and thins and where they should be and would love some feedback if you see anything particularly crazy. I already see I need to work on the spacing under the ampersand there.
Specific thought: does the ampersand look too much like an 'E'? Haven't drawn many in this style, so still trying to get comfortable with it, lol.
Peep the attachment for a bigger version of this, a detail shot showing some of my failed attempts in the paper, and the actual scan for a straight-on look.
over 1 year ago
That's effing heroic.
Looking great Ryan. The '&' plays well for me, but I am getting a stong 'F' vibe from the resulting cossbar.
This is really lovely - really nice work Ryan - I would have a really hard time making any suggestions on this!
Very nice Ryan, I love that B!
This is gorgeous! Personally I see the ampersand right away.
Agreed with @Michael Spitz. Would also like to see the ornamental strokes a touch thinner so the monogram stands out to the eye a bit clearer - absolutely beautiful as usual though Ryan.
I saw the ampersand instantly. Love how you incorporated a heart into the B-L connection. I think perhaps more thick-to-thin contrast is needed, but I've only experimented with this style, so take that with a grain of salt. I don't know how big this is going to be, but one thing to keep in mind is that over time the ink will 'bleed' and fill in small areas of negative space. Pretty fantastic stuff, man.
Your ampersand reads well as an ampersand to me (more on that below). However, I would be more concerned with the right letter, as it read as an 'F'. I always make a point to look at the shot long and hard before reading titles or descriptions so I can make an unbiased call.
As someone with an ampersand tattoo, be prepared—no one will know what it is. Since tattoos are rather personal, that isn't always a big concern as you typically have an opportunity to explain when someone asks about it. But just know that those who aren't designers will see an 'E', and even when you tell them it's an "ampersand," close to 50% will proceed to ask what as ampersand is!
I'd recommend a more common ampersand (this shape → &) to solve both the issue of the 'L' appearing as an 'F' as well as give the best chance of it being read as an ampersand by non-designers. The latter reason is secondary and more preferential—in my case I like mine, but I do have to explain it to everyone unless I'm at a designer meetup.
love this, I read it as an F too, thought it was supposed to be that at first.
by the way your getting really good at drawing letters too man!
Whenever i see your works, i feel so happy. Great work mate.
The & is a bit like an E. But of more concern is the L gets lost in all the loops around it.
Thanks for all the kind words and awesome feedback, guys!
@Michael Spitz @Glen Thorpe @Sean McCabe @Neil Tasker @Dan (Hypagraphic) - Yes, the 'L' definitely needs some love. I actually noticed the 'F' effect shortly before posting yesterday, but seeing as how I knew good and well what it was supposed to be, my brain told me it was still clear enough...but now it's all I can see, lol.
Improving the contrast between letters and swashes should help a lot with part of it, I think. Got carried away with curve smoothing and ended up damn near at a monoline, lol.
Then if I change the 'L' to align more horizontally at the bottom instead of ending so much higher than the loop, I think that should pull it back from Effsville.
Thanks for the help, guys!
@Glen Thorpe @Jeff Jenkins - Definitely need some contrast work, yes. Thanks, guys. Redrawing right now to get things a bit cleaner!
lookin very nice, can't wait for your update and fixing that F problem
Thanks, @Florin Capota!
You got some smooth lines there! I would watch how the bottom swash passes through the bottom of the B and L. The line quality of a tattoo might not be able to get as thin of a line as that which would in turn just absorb those smaller negative spaces.
The curve on the bottom counter of the ampersand is flawless. Real tight work man. Agree with the above comments on the legibility and looking forward to seeing more!
by Ryan Hamrick
Alright, I think most or even all of the issues have been fixed (or at least improved).
Anything crazy you see BEFORE IT GOES TO INK?!?!
Huge size attached.
over 1 year ago
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