Still having fun with this flowchart. I hate flowcharts and figured the best way for me to enjoy it is to make it pretty. :) I am having fun and accomplishing a lot. It doesn't add much time to my process and I have something I am proud of.
What do you guys think? :-/
Don't forget to join the Jump.TV Beta! Should be live in a few days. :)
You've spent three days on it so far! "Doesn't add much to my work flow". I agree, an app that can do this is great. But designing one for a project pains my brain.
Get the app that does this built. You will make money.
I was being pedantic. But still a few hours is far more than just drawing it out which is all that is really needed. In fact you probably did that anyway to create this. If it works for you, great. But I can't see the value from it.
@Patrick Spending a few hours on a flow that defines the functionality of a product is not excessive. It's important flows are thoroughly thought through. Missing pieces in the flow leads to incomplete products.
Value is found in different places for different people, but I can't express how important slowing down during this step in the process is.
pretty sure this is jeff's own project, so if he wants to spend extra time working on the flow charts, and it helps him arrive at a better product, who care, god bless him.
@Jeff Broderick Time spent on working on the flow is brilliant, very much in favour of it. But I can't see the value of designing it all pretty. It's like completing a Rubix cube. Great, but ultimately useless. To reiterate, the design is great, it looks pretty. It's only the act of doing it for a single project that I find useless. If this were an app that looked this good for designing flows, It would be awesome.
My my that is beautiful, I wish I had the time to do flow charts as beautiful as that. Definitely not a waste of time if you can budget the hours to make it.
I think there's a lot of value to something with this level of detail. The color coding and locked/unlocked/mail icons make everything much easier to compartmentalize at a glance.
I also agree that this is a valuable piece of documentation for use and for your archives of the product. I also keep my wireframes and flows very clean. Just because it's not a consumer-end piece of work doesn't mean it can't be clean and digestible. I'm pretty sure this flow will communicate very well. Also I don't agree with people who act like what they think is the law. People have different values and different ways of communicating their points. @Jeff might think this is useful, John Doe might think hand sketches are more efficient. There's no right or wrong, it's a matter of personal preference.
@Mark Bult can chime in here as well, remembering the Bible long flow charts for some Fitbit products now. There's nothing wrong with clean and visually rich flow-charts.
Well done, Jeff and thanks for sharing this process, we don't see much of the early stage progress shots.
I'm loving this Jeff - looks super tasty! I personally wouldn't go this far with a flow chart purely because it would be soul destroying when i had to go and change it lol :) the flexibility that Omnigraffle gives me is more valuable than having it look really nice, and saves me a lot of time.
But like you say, if you're happy doing it this way, who is anyone to tell you it is wrong? we should all enjoy what we do...
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Still having fun with this flowchart. I hate flowcharts and figured the best way for me to enjoy it is to make it pretty. :) I am having fun and accomplishing a lot. It doesn't add much time to my process and I have something I am proud of.
What do you guys think? :-/
Don't forget to join the Jump.TV Beta! Should be live in a few days. :)
about 1 year ago
Damn. This a lovely flowchart. Didn't saw anything similar before.
about 1 year ago
UI kit? kthxbyeeee!!! :-D
about 1 year ago
You've spent three days on it so far! "Doesn't add much to my work flow". I agree, an app that can do this is great. But designing one for a project pains my brain.
Get the app that does this built. You will make money.
about 1 year ago
@Patrick Not sure where you did your math. I have only spent a few hours on it.
about 1 year ago
I was being pedantic. But still a few hours is far more than just drawing it out which is all that is really needed. In fact you probably did that anyway to create this. If it works for you, great. But I can't see the value from it.
about 1 year ago
@Jeff Broderick Everyone hating on you for this, Imma do the opposite... Good work dude.
about 1 year ago
@Patrick Spending a few hours on a flow that defines the functionality of a product is not excessive. It's important flows are thoroughly thought through. Missing pieces in the flow leads to incomplete products.
Value is found in different places for different people, but I can't express how important slowing down during this step in the process is.
about 1 year ago
Will you by any chance post the full flowchart? :) I'm doing my thesis on Workflow Systems and a full shot will be a great inspiration for me!
Thanks!
about 1 year ago
pretty sure this is jeff's own project, so if he wants to spend extra time working on the flow charts, and it helps him arrive at a better product, who care, god bless him.
about 1 year ago
@Stafie Maybe later. Obviously I can't give out our secrets before launch. :)
about 1 year ago
@Jeff Broderick Time spent on working on the flow is brilliant, very much in favour of it. But I can't see the value of designing it all pretty. It's like completing a Rubix cube. Great, but ultimately useless. To reiterate, the design is great, it looks pretty. It's only the act of doing it for a single project that I find useless. If this were an app that looked this good for designing flows, It would be awesome.
about 1 year ago
I smell a flowchart library.
about 1 year ago
@Jeff Broderick - ok then, I will stay tuned till the Jump.Tv will be released :-). It will be a great help for me..
about 1 year ago
I've got to disagree with most on this being a waste of time.
Assuming the whole team has access to this making it clear is incredibly valuable versus a rough paper sketch.
about 1 year ago
My my that is beautiful, I wish I had the time to do flow charts as beautiful as that. Definitely not a waste of time if you can budget the hours to make it.
about 1 year ago
I think there's a lot of value to something with this level of detail. The color coding and locked/unlocked/mail icons make everything much easier to compartmentalize at a glance.
about 1 year ago
I also agree that this is a valuable piece of documentation for use and for your archives of the product. I also keep my wireframes and flows very clean. Just because it's not a consumer-end piece of work doesn't mean it can't be clean and digestible. I'm pretty sure this flow will communicate very well. Also I don't agree with people who act like what they think is the law. People have different values and different ways of communicating their points. @Jeff might think this is useful, John Doe might think hand sketches are more efficient. There's no right or wrong, it's a matter of personal preference.
@Mark Bult can chime in here as well, remembering the Bible long flow charts for some Fitbit products now. There's nothing wrong with clean and visually rich flow-charts.
Well done, Jeff and thanks for sharing this process, we don't see much of the early stage progress shots.
about 1 year ago
lovely work!
about 1 year ago
Rebound
FlowChart
by musHo
A wise designer once said:
"...best way for me to enjoy it is to make it pretty."
Gridded + Prettied
about 1 year ago
I'm loving this Jeff - looks super tasty! I personally wouldn't go this far with a flow chart purely because it would be soul destroying when i had to go and change it lol :) the flexibility that Omnigraffle gives me is more valuable than having it look really nice, and saves me a lot of time.
But like you say, if you're happy doing it this way, who is anyone to tell you it is wrong? we should all enjoy what we do...
about 1 year ago
PS. u could achieve this look in illustrator and it would be slightly easier to modify the shapes and keep crisp lines :)
about 1 year ago
Looks sick man
about 1 year ago
love this
about 1 year ago
Looks nice :). UI Kit?
6 months ago