Would love some feedback on this lettering I'm working on. It's for an educational resource and it needed to reflect a cartography/navigation theme in an elegant style. In terms of intended use, it'll be primarily for printed materials and won't need to be used at really tiny sizes.
The overall concept is approved (although not chosen between these two alternates yet), I'm just working on refining the details. Specifically trying to improve the balance between both words, but I've been looking at it too long and it would be great to get a fresh perspective.
Your sketches look exactly like mine...only they are much cleaner, smoother, are more legible/readable...ok maybe they're not exactly like mine. ;)
I love the fluidity of the lettering and how well it reads, even with the decorative/flourish elements. The only part that bothers me is the C. Every single letter is connected...yet the C is not. What about connecting the C with the loop of the 'l'?
for some reason i had this strange feeling you were going to post some new work this evening. this looks great, claire. let me sit with this for awhile and i'll get back to ya.
Gorgeous lettering @Claire I have nothing to add as I think it looks just right the way the letters are positioned and stylised. It reminds me of my style and my obsession for the terminal like lines. I love the way the 2nd option of the A's loop connects, I think there's great consistency in that one.
@Andrew and @Chris – Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the feedback. When vectored, the overlap didn't look as neat as in the sketch (although visually I do like it a lot too) so it wasn't as clear to read. I like that the 2nd one keeps the left 'A' curves though.
@Nikita Thanks a lot! ;) The question is, do you also (almost) make holes in your sketchbook paper by erasing too much? That's a fantastic suggestion for the 'C', it hadn't even crossed my mind. For the 2nd one, it could mirror that the left 'A' loop nicely too. Thanks very much for the idea, will try that out!
@Colin Ha that's weird, how did you know?! Thanks a lot for the comment, looking forward to hearing what you think later!
@Faheema Always wonderful to read your comments, thanks! I'm really pleased to hear that (looking at your No 1 Mom piece, the thin swirls and terminals are kind of similar!).
@Claire Coullon Jaw-dropping lettering. The sketches are pure eye candy. Have to admit, I thought the overlap was pretty cool in the sketch form too, but looks like you made the right call with that overlap not translating as nice to digital (for readability). My goodness though, super stunning! That 'Atl' is fantastic. I vote for the bottom one, by the way.
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Love those eyedrop shapes in the 's' negatives!
Wow, Clarie so nice all around.
I do like the second one, for some reason it just feels to flow together so nicely. I do miss the "s' going into the "A" though. Sorry just can't help seeing that flowing into one another so smoothly. And with the capital "A" I don't see a legibility problem really, but that is probably just me. Also the second "s" seems a tad forced. Maybe separating the "a" and first "s". So the flow going from the first "s" to the second has a smoother transition. Just feels like the line has to stretch a bit to get to the second "s".
Or maybe that fact that I haven't had my evening beer yet is effecting my judgement. :D
Love how it feels though, and I know how you always catch any small imperfections as you finalize, so I have no worries.
Really thanks for sharing.
Looks awesome Claire! Well worth the wait. Can't quite tell how the balance differs in context...but the V2 'A' has my vote from a purely asethetic standpoint.
One thought > was wondering if the first 's' in 'Class' & the 's' 'Atlas' might be a hair tight? I see that they're mirrored in part, but if you open them up just a bit, I think they'll feel more comfortable... Other than that, no complaints. Loving the flow, and that 'Atl' interaction is killer!
Beautiful as always @Claire, I envy your clean sketches! Really there's not a lot to pick on. I wonder if you should make the loop of the "l" extend like all the other lines, that's the only line that stops at the letter rather than continuing into a tail of some sort. Plus, I see in the sketches your question, "identical?" regarding the "ss". I would say go ahead and make them identical, the one on the right is a little squatter and it just feels a little odd visually to me. Just my opinion of course, it looks great as it is!
version 2!!! love this, the extensions on the A and C are saweeet, and love hte crossbar connection on the A as well in numero dos! great sketches by the way, for all reading this, she does sketch blindfolded hanging upside down.
@Joseph Alessio If you're referring to the first 'l' in 'Class', that's because a continuation would interfere with the 'C' and hurt legibility.
I do agree with you though about the 's's. The 'a's appear to already be identical (at least they look to be), so I think it could be an option—making the 's's the same wouldn't hurt the uniqueness of the piece, I don't think.
This is eye candy Claire! The 'C' and the 's's' are just gorgeous, But the sexiest combination of this lettering is the 'Atl' relationship, especially in the second design. Love the way that A is connected. Beautiful flow - love it!
@Claire I agree with @Nikita Prokhorov, connecting the "C" could be pretty sweet! But might actually be too much...but then again, the way you work, it'll look great no matter what! :)
I absolutely love both, as well as the sketch with the interaction...between these two, definitely the second, just because of that loop in the 'A'. The flow you created in all the variations is really beautiful :)
@Sean Thank you! I always feel like I'm repeating myself when commenting on your shots, but your comments are always so thoughtful. Ha, I hadn't noticed the 's' drops! Good eye ;) I did prefer the overlapping version at first, but after letting it sit for a while and client feedback, the separated ones did seem like the better call. Really appreciate it, thanks!
Oh and you're right, the 'a's are identical. It felt like the style would benefit from repeated letters being the same shape, as I thought it would be a little messy otherwise.
@Mike Wow, thanks for the fantastic feedback! (and good judgment, as always!) Very well noticed for the 's' – the more I've been looking at them, the more the connections look a little forced. I'm going to adjust the spacing and make the main diagonals a little less steep too, which should make the transitions more natural. Thanks again! Hope all is well with you and your owls :D
@Michael You're right about the spacing there, thanks! Definitely need to give the upwards connecting stroke more room as well. Glad you like it, thanks a lot! (and for the chats along the way, too). Trying not to let down the team ;)
I would love to be able to give a decent critique... change this... alter that... but your work is always faultless and a joy to behold. Version #2 btw.
@Joseph Thanks Joe! Ha, well spotted for that little note! I think I ended up making the top parts of the double 's' the same and then kept a different lower half.. but you (and @Sean) are right, it would definitely make more sense to have them actually identical, especially since the 'a's are the same. For the 'l', I'll be trying out @Nikita's suggestion for a 'C-l' connection and will see how that reads. Curious to find out! Thanks again for the helpful feedback, I really appreciate it.
@Neil Haha, and with my wrong hand remember? Yea I completely agree for that crossbar. Thanks very much for the comment, pleased to hear it!
@Matt Hey Matt, thanks! I spent ages on that damn curve (the far left edge of the main crossbar) so I'm very pleased to hear that. Cheers for the kind words!
@Andrew Yeah it's definitely a good idea, hadn't crossed my mind at all! I like the idea of addressing what Joseph mentioned about that 'l' too. Will give it a shot, it's always good to try out everything. Thanks again!
@Anna спасибо ;) (I think I can finally get that correct, right?!) It's really nice read your comment, I'm glad you like it. So far, pretty unanimous on that second 'A'!
@Karli That's good to hear, thanks a lot! Hope things are well with you.
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Would love some feedback on this lettering I'm working on. It's for an educational resource and it needed to reflect a cartography/navigation theme in an elegant style. In terms of intended use, it'll be primarily for printed materials and won't need to be used at really tiny sizes.
The overall concept is approved (although not chosen between these two alternates yet), I'm just working on refining the details. Specifically trying to improve the balance between both words, but I've been looking at it too long and it would be great to get a fresh perspective.
Bigger version and sketches attached.
about 1 year ago
Number two. The way the "A" mimics the "C" is lovely. The "ATL" tie in is amazing. Love it.
about 1 year ago
Oh my God!!!! What happened with the sketches. The interaction in that s and a is amazing. man.
about 1 year ago
Haha thanks a lot @kirk! Yeah I had that originally as an alternate, but went with entirely separate words as it was clearer and easier to read.
about 1 year ago
Totally agreeing with @kirk Number 2, but seriously what happened to the interaction between the "s" and "A"?!?!?
about 1 year ago
The balance in the 2nd looks great but got to agree with @kirk visola the interaction in the sketch is a winner. Once again amazing work Claire
about 1 year ago
Your sketches look exactly like mine...only they are much cleaner, smoother, are more legible/readable...ok maybe they're not exactly like mine. ;)
I love the fluidity of the lettering and how well it reads, even with the decorative/flourish elements. The only part that bothers me is the C. Every single letter is connected...yet the C is not. What about connecting the C with the loop of the 'l'?
about 1 year ago
for some reason i had this strange feeling you were going to post some new work this evening. this looks great, claire. let me sit with this for awhile and i'll get back to ya.
about 1 year ago
Gorgeous lettering @Claire I have nothing to add as I think it looks just right the way the letters are positioned and stylised. It reminds me of my style and my obsession for the terminal like lines. I love the way the 2nd option of the A's loop connects, I think there's great consistency in that one.
about 1 year ago
@Andrew and @Chris – Thanks a lot! I really appreciate the feedback. When vectored, the overlap didn't look as neat as in the sketch (although visually I do like it a lot too) so it wasn't as clear to read. I like that the 2nd one keeps the left 'A' curves though.
@Nikita Thanks a lot! ;) The question is, do you also (almost) make holes in your sketchbook paper by erasing too much? That's a fantastic suggestion for the 'C', it hadn't even crossed my mind. For the 2nd one, it could mirror that the left 'A' loop nicely too. Thanks very much for the idea, will try that out!
@Colin Ha that's weird, how did you know?! Thanks a lot for the comment, looking forward to hearing what you think later!
@Faheema Always wonderful to read your comments, thanks! I'm really pleased to hear that (looking at your No 1 Mom piece, the thin swirls and terminals are kind of similar!).
about 1 year ago
@Claire Coullon Jaw-dropping lettering. The sketches are pure eye candy. Have to admit, I thought the overlap was pretty cool in the sketch form too, but looks like you made the right call with that overlap not translating as nice to digital (for readability). My goodness though, super stunning! That 'Atl' is fantastic. I vote for the bottom one, by the way.
Edit:
Love those eyedrop shapes in the 's' negatives!
about 1 year ago
Wow, Clarie so nice all around.
I do like the second one, for some reason it just feels to flow together so nicely. I do miss the "s' going into the "A" though. Sorry just can't help seeing that flowing into one another so smoothly. And with the capital "A" I don't see a legibility problem really, but that is probably just me. Also the second "s" seems a tad forced. Maybe separating the "a" and first "s". So the flow going from the first "s" to the second has a smoother transition. Just feels like the line has to stretch a bit to get to the second "s".
Or maybe that fact that I haven't had my evening beer yet is effecting my judgement. :D
Love how it feels though, and I know how you always catch any small imperfections as you finalize, so I have no worries.
Really thanks for sharing.
about 1 year ago
Looks awesome Claire! Well worth the wait. Can't quite tell how the balance differs in context...but the V2 'A' has my vote from a purely asethetic standpoint.
One thought > was wondering if the first 's' in 'Class' & the 's' 'Atlas' might be a hair tight? I see that they're mirrored in part, but if you open them up just a bit, I think they'll feel more comfortable... Other than that, no complaints. Loving the flow, and that 'Atl' interaction is killer!
about 1 year ago
Beautiful as always @Claire, I envy your clean sketches! Really there's not a lot to pick on. I wonder if you should make the loop of the "l" extend like all the other lines, that's the only line that stops at the letter rather than continuing into a tail of some sort. Plus, I see in the sketches your question, "identical?" regarding the "ss". I would say go ahead and make them identical, the one on the right is a little squatter and it just feels a little odd visually to me. Just my opinion of course, it looks great as it is!
about 1 year ago
version 2!!! love this, the extensions on the A and C are saweeet, and love hte crossbar connection on the A as well in numero dos! great sketches by the way, for all reading this, she does sketch blindfolded hanging upside down.
about 1 year ago
The queen of letters.
about 1 year ago
@Joseph Alessio If you're referring to the first 'l' in 'Class', that's because a continuation would interfere with the 'C' and hurt legibility.
I do agree with you though about the 's's. The 'a's appear to already be identical (at least they look to be), so I think it could be an option—making the 's's the same wouldn't hurt the uniqueness of the piece, I don't think.
about 1 year ago
This is eye candy Claire! The 'C' and the 's's' are just gorgeous, But the sexiest combination of this lettering is the 'Atl' relationship, especially in the second design. Love the way that A is connected. Beautiful flow - love it!
about 1 year ago
@Claire I agree with @Nikita Prokhorov, connecting the "C" could be pretty sweet! But might actually be too much...but then again, the way you work, it'll look great no matter what! :)
about 1 year ago
I absolutely love both, as well as the sketch with the interaction...between these two, definitely the second, just because of that loop in the 'A'. The flow you created in all the variations is really beautiful :)
about 1 year ago
your lettering is impeccable! love the second one. great flow and balance.
about 1 year ago
@Sean Thank you! I always feel like I'm repeating myself when commenting on your shots, but your comments are always so thoughtful. Ha, I hadn't noticed the 's' drops! Good eye ;) I did prefer the overlapping version at first, but after letting it sit for a while and client feedback, the separated ones did seem like the better call. Really appreciate it, thanks!
Oh and you're right, the 'a's are identical. It felt like the style would benefit from repeated letters being the same shape, as I thought it would be a little messy otherwise.
@Mike Wow, thanks for the fantastic feedback! (and good judgment, as always!) Very well noticed for the 's' – the more I've been looking at them, the more the connections look a little forced. I'm going to adjust the spacing and make the main diagonals a little less steep too, which should make the transitions more natural. Thanks again! Hope all is well with you and your owls :D
@Michael You're right about the spacing there, thanks! Definitely need to give the upwards connecting stroke more room as well. Glad you like it, thanks a lot! (and for the chats along the way, too). Trying not to let down the team ;)
about 1 year ago
I would love to be able to give a decent critique... change this... alter that... but your work is always faultless and a joy to behold. Version #2 btw.
about 1 year ago
@Joseph Thanks Joe! Ha, well spotted for that little note! I think I ended up making the top parts of the double 's' the same and then kept a different lower half.. but you (and @Sean) are right, it would definitely make more sense to have them actually identical, especially since the 'a's are the same. For the 'l', I'll be trying out @Nikita's suggestion for a 'C-l' connection and will see how that reads. Curious to find out! Thanks again for the helpful feedback, I really appreciate it.
@Neil Haha, and with my wrong hand remember? Yea I completely agree for that crossbar. Thanks very much for the comment, pleased to hear it!
@Javin Ha, thank you (I wish though).
@Matt Hey Matt, thanks! I spent ages on that damn curve (the far left edge of the main crossbar) so I'm very pleased to hear that. Cheers for the kind words!
about 1 year ago
@Andrew Yeah it's definitely a good idea, hadn't crossed my mind at all! I like the idea of addressing what Joseph mentioned about that 'l' too. Will give it a shot, it's always good to try out everything. Thanks again!
@Anna спасибо ;) (I think I can finally get that correct, right?!) It's really nice read your comment, I'm glad you like it. So far, pretty unanimous on that second 'A'!
@Karli That's good to hear, thanks a lot! Hope things are well with you.
about 1 year ago