I don't see it as something that is ruining my life (it is just an icon after all), I see it as an opportunity for a redesign exercise, just a fun little project to spend a few hours on.
@Claes I agree with you. It's fun to re-design something like that sometimes. Some rad icons have been created as a result.
@Jason I'm not trying to imply that people shouldn't care about bad design, because we should. I'm just tired of hearing everyone complain about it on here, Twitter, Facebook, and even my local news station.
People need to get over themselves. They must not have enough work to do if they are whining over an icon and creating multiple icons they think are a better replacement. Majority of the one's I have seen are no better anyway.
@Davy, So are you implying that if I don't care then I'm not a designer? Does not seem like you put much thought behind that statement.
It's not that people don't care, it's the fact that people are going way overboard over an icon. Everybody seems to think they have something to prove by saying it sucks or by wasting their time creating icons they think are better.
It's all subjective anyway. People should take all the time they spend complaining about things and do something productive.
Donate some design time to a charity or something.
The thought I put behind that statement is simple:
When I look at design elements and stuff on the internet, I constantly get excited and wound up about all little, beautiful and carefully crafted details. Those little pixels, that small glow, the great choice of colours, ... I see details, that my friends who aren't designers don't notice.
I feel that designers are going overboard with the iTunes icon because apple has always been a mayor center of design pride and excellence. It seems to me that the lack of apple's attention to detail lately, makes designers lose it a bit..
When I saw the original iTunes 9 icon, I went ballistic for the same reasons as above.
I do understand your objective on this, but creating a cool new iTunes icon is also productive. For instance, the top itunes replacement icons on dribbble are now the most viewed items on dribbble, ever. I'm sure it has brought the designers a lot of attention lately.
@Davy The previous iTunes icon was hardly inspiring as a piece of design excellence. Apple has never nor will ever create an "app icon" that redefines excellence. That's not the type of design they are known for. Typically it's their OS design and application design that really stands out, not their icons, which honestly, need to be brought up to date with today's standards.
@Davey I do like how you have an open mind towards things, and yes it's great that some designers are getting more exposure for themselves.
What I am really getting at here is the way people are going about their complaining. There is no constructive criticism going on. Just a lot of cocky bitching. So from my point of view if people call themselves "designers" then they will know how to give appropriate critique and break the things down that they think could change, not spout off at the mouth about how the icon sucks, it's terrible and how they could do so much better.
@Ian This was directed at all the negativity surrounding the icon/logo created by Apple. I got tired of hearing everyone complain about Apple's version. I don't have a problem with people trying to improve something, I have an issue with the people who are complaining so much about something so trivial.
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I love you for this.
over 1 year ago
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Rich Hemsley
you love me anyway.
over 1 year ago
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Matthew Skiles
I cares :)
over 1 year ago
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App Juice
Me too! It sucked so bad only ms could get away with is crime against design! Thank god for awesome icons :D
over 1 year ago
Who cares about iTunes!? Yeah!
over 1 year ago
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Rich Hemsley
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a fan of this icon/logo either. I just think it's trivial and some people are going crazy.
over 1 year ago
I don't see it as something that is ruining my life (it is just an icon after all), I see it as an opportunity for a redesign exercise, just a fun little project to spend a few hours on.
over 1 year ago
To be honest, I'm actually quite glad there are people who *do* care about icons.
over 1 year ago
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Rich Hemsley
@Claes I agree with you. It's fun to re-design something like that sometimes. Some rad icons have been created as a result.
@Jason I'm not trying to imply that people shouldn't care about bad design, because we should. I'm just tired of hearing everyone complain about it on here, Twitter, Facebook, and even my local news station.
over 1 year ago
People need to get over themselves. They must not have enough work to do if they are whining over an icon and creating multiple icons they think are a better replacement. Majority of the one's I have seen are no better anyway.
over 1 year ago
It is getting a bit boring tbh
over 1 year ago
I'll agree that the complaining is excessive, and that most of the redesigns aren't any better. I've seen a couple nice ones though.
over 1 year ago
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Davy Kestens
I care, and if you call yourself a designer, you should, too
over 1 year ago
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Rich Hemsley
@Davy, see my comment above.
over 1 year ago
@Davy, So are you implying that if I don't care then I'm not a designer? Does not seem like you put much thought behind that statement.
It's not that people don't care, it's the fact that people are going way overboard over an icon. Everybody seems to think they have something to prove by saying it sucks or by wasting their time creating icons they think are better.
It's all subjective anyway. People should take all the time they spend complaining about things and do something productive.
Donate some design time to a charity or something.
over 1 year ago
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Davy Kestens
The thought I put behind that statement is simple:
When I look at design elements and stuff on the internet, I constantly get excited and wound up about all little, beautiful and carefully crafted details. Those little pixels, that small glow, the great choice of colours, ... I see details, that my friends who aren't designers don't notice.
I feel that designers are going overboard with the iTunes icon because apple has always been a mayor center of design pride and excellence. It seems to me that the lack of apple's attention to detail lately, makes designers lose it a bit..
When I saw the original iTunes 9 icon, I went ballistic for the same reasons as above.
I do understand your objective on this, but creating a cool new iTunes icon is also productive. For instance, the top itunes replacement icons on dribbble are now the most viewed items on dribbble, ever. I'm sure it has brought the designers a lot of attention lately.
over 1 year ago
@Davy The previous iTunes icon was hardly inspiring as a piece of design excellence. Apple has never nor will ever create an "app icon" that redefines excellence. That's not the type of design they are known for. Typically it's their OS design and application design that really stands out, not their icons, which honestly, need to be brought up to date with today's standards.
over 1 year ago
@Davey I do like how you have an open mind towards things, and yes it's great that some designers are getting more exposure for themselves.
What I am really getting at here is the way people are going about their complaining. There is no constructive criticism going on. Just a lot of cocky bitching. So from my point of view if people call themselves "designers" then they will know how to give appropriate critique and break the things down that they think could change, not spout off at the mouth about how the icon sucks, it's terrible and how they could do so much better.
over 1 year ago
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Ian Storm Taylor
You all need to take a little of your own advice. Who cares, they are just icon redesigns.
Ditch the negativity.
over 1 year ago
@Ian, What exactly do you mean by taking our own advice?
I would say I am taking my own advice by not complaining about the icon.
You say, "Who cares, they are just icon redesigns." I say, and this image says, "who cares, It's just an icon."
The "negativity" lies with those who are complaining about the icon itself.
over 1 year ago
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Rich Hemsley
@Ian This was directed at all the negativity surrounding the icon/logo created by Apple. I got tired of hearing everyone complain about Apple's version. I don't have a problem with people trying to improve something, I have an issue with the people who are complaining so much about something so trivial.
over 1 year ago
Hey, this shot might not be the best of the iTunes icon debate, but it made it to TechCrunch!
http://techcrunch.com/2010/09/03/haters-gonna-hate/
over 1 year ago
it is trivial. i just dont like it...i think apple couldve done alot better with it. though it doesnt exactly keep me up at night ;)
over 1 year ago