I think I should share an important lesson with the community. Like many other designers I'm also getting some project inquiries from dribbble. Last week I got an project invitaion and the guy who was contacted was saying he don't have any investors yet but he will share company equlity. Well, his got an interesting project and so I pulled the trigger. But before signing contract he asked me to design a very small part of the rough mockups he sent me. If things goes well,we are signing. I chose to design this "Filght Search" panel. After showing this, he was very happy with the cleanliness and the concept. But when I ask him to start official things (contract signing) he said, "Tanveer, you did a great job, but you have to prove more and we are considering you with other designs submitted. But you have to design homepage. right now we are trying to check every candidates and see who is the best for this position. We want to make sure to choose the right person, and he has to prove it, with at least some good designs on (homepage, logo) etc.
Well, I quit immediatly for sure. But I want to warn the community (specially those, who are new in dribbble), "Stay away from this kind of clients who ask to do spec works (even if that's a very small thing like a simple button design)".
Well his name is Alan . If someone is working for him as a test, I'd recommend, stop Asap, before you waste too much time. Best Wishs guys!!
@Tanveer Junayed nice thing to share, i have experienced some in the past, so to avoid this i follow pretty simple rule, no work commences unless they can make some up-front payments, i know its pretty cheap things to ask initially but i am left with no choice, at least we can know the clients is genuine this way.
I too was contacted by this person, but was put off as soon as I saw the payment method. The design you have done looks awesome though, great work & maybe you could use this for another project in the future?
@Tanveer Junayed resist the temptation, until you are sure the client is genuine, there are lot of smart people drooling here, trying to fuc* people like us.
Nice work stepping aside. Sometimes the "promise" of money and working on a cool project is hard to turn down. At least you got a great dribbble shot out of it though!
So, he offers 50% of equity to the designer, maybe? :P
Anyway, I get a similar invitation too, today. But its not a trial, its a confirm invitation. I am not so sure about this thing, startup and equity stuff.
How important (normally) is it a designer role in a start up like this? How many equity considered normal? Are we authorize to involve in decision making and more business related stuff?
and, GOOD WORK @Tanveer Junayed & good call! :D
Anyone have similar experience to share?
Actually you are right @Tanveer Junayed such things are happening here... although the lure to work on something cool always makes us slip, but then we are all smart right especially DESIGNERS.
Totally agree with you, Tanveer! Unfortunately I had to make the same experience, but I've learned not to accept those kind of clients. I like that you care about the the dribbblers, especially the newbies.
By the way, I really like your shot! Powerful colors.
@Tanveer Junayed nice one dude! ++ I was contacted too. I didn't even bother to reply to the second email he sent me. He can't predict the future and he's asking us to invest in his project. No way! Well done fella.
Nice design and flight search concept (especially the flight progress indicator)! Also thanks for the warning. I had a similar situation about two months ago in real life. :-/
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Tanveer Junayed
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Hey folks!
I think I should share an important lesson with the community. Like many other designers I'm also getting some project inquiries from dribbble. Last week I got an project invitaion and the guy who was contacted was saying he don't have any investors yet but he will share company equlity. Well, his got an interesting project and so I pulled the trigger. But before signing contract he asked me to design a very small part of the rough mockups he sent me. If things goes well,we are signing. I chose to design this "Filght Search" panel. After showing this, he was very happy with the cleanliness and the concept. But when I ask him to start official things (contract signing) he said, "Tanveer, you did a great job, but you have to prove more and we are considering you with other designs submitted. But you have to design homepage. right now we are trying to check every candidates and see who is the best for this position. We want to make sure to choose the right person, and he has to prove it, with at least some good designs on (homepage, logo) etc.
Well, I quit immediatly for sure. But I want to warn the community (specially those, who are new in dribbble), "Stay away from this kind of clients who ask to do spec works (even if that's a very small thing like a simple button design)".
Well his name is Alan . If someone is working for him as a test, I'd recommend, stop Asap, before you waste too much time. Best Wishs guys!!
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about 1 year ago
Nice work @Tanveer Junayed.
about 1 year ago
Hi @Tanveer Junayed, thanks for the warning
By the way, nice design: clean and slick
about 1 year ago
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Kartik Mahant
@Tanveer Junayed nice thing to share, i have experienced some in the past, so to avoid this i follow pretty simple rule, no work commences unless they can make some up-front payments, i know its pretty cheap things to ask initially but i am left with no choice, at least we can know the clients is genuine this way.
about 1 year ago
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Kerry Moran
I too was contacted by this person, but was put off as soon as I saw the payment method. The design you have done looks awesome though, great work & maybe you could use this for another project in the future?
about 1 year ago
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Tanveer Junayed
@Muhammad Bilal ☁ @Sergey Sokurenko : Thanks mate!
@Kartik Mahant ✦✦✦ : Yes Kartik I also ask downpayment. But this client was sounds real and the project was interested. That's why I did it.
about 1 year ago
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Kartik Mahant
@Tanveer Junayed resist the temptation, until you are sure the client is genuine, there are lot of smart people drooling here, trying to fuc* people like us.
about 1 year ago
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Tanveer Junayed
@Kartik Mahant ✦✦✦ : 100% agree with you dude!
@Kerry Moran : Thanks for sharing! Yes I love this design BTW :P
about 1 year ago
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Jonathan Patalot ✈
nice icons! also, isn't that a typo 'returm'
about 1 year ago
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Naoshad
Sorry to know it Tanveer and thanks for the warn. Looking very clean!
about 1 year ago
Very well said @Tanveer Junayed
about 1 year ago
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Tanveer Junayed
@Jonathan Patalot, Yes, Good call buddy!
@Naoshad Alam and @Josh Boaz: Thanks!
about 1 year ago
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Asif Aleem
Very clean design.
about 1 year ago
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Matt McDaniel
The progress indicator is the best part.
about 1 year ago
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Tanveer Junayed
@Asif Aleem: Thanks man!
@Matt McDaniel : I also think so :)
about 1 year ago
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Nick Holmer
Nice work stepping aside. Sometimes the "promise" of money and working on a cool project is hard to turn down. At least you got a great dribbble shot out of it though!
about 1 year ago
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Rich Smith
Learned this lesson myself many years ago. Now i don't do anything unless it pays real money or i trust the person i'm working for.
Nice little UI there though :)
about 1 year ago
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Tanveer Junayed
@Nick Holmer , yeah that the pleasure dude. But I enjoyed a lot though. :)
@Rich, Thanks!
about 1 year ago
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kailoon
So, he offers 50% of equity to the designer, maybe? :P
Anyway, I get a similar invitation too, today. But its not a trial, its a confirm invitation. I am not so sure about this thing, startup and equity stuff.
How important (normally) is it a designer role in a start up like this? How many equity considered normal? Are we authorize to involve in decision making and more business related stuff?
and, GOOD WORK @Tanveer Junayed & good call! :D
Anyone have similar experience to share?
about 1 year ago
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Avinash Tripathi
Actually you are right @Tanveer Junayed such things are happening here... although the lure to work on something cool always makes us slip, but then we are all smart right especially DESIGNERS.
Good work as always here :)
about 1 year ago
Totally agree with you, Tanveer! Unfortunately I had to make the same experience, but I've learned not to accept those kind of clients. I like that you care about the the dribbblers, especially the newbies.
By the way, I really like your shot! Powerful colors.
about 1 year ago
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Fabio Benedetti
@Tanveer Junayed nice one dude! ++ I was contacted too. I didn't even bother to reply to the second email he sent me. He can't predict the future and he's asking us to invest in his project. No way! Well done fella.
about 1 year ago
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Aqib Mushtaq
Amazing Work Bro! Sorry for late comment / like was in college :). Keep it up!
about 1 year ago
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Thorsten Beeck
Nice design and flight search concept (especially the flight progress indicator)! Also thanks for the warning. I had a similar situation about two months ago in real life. :-/
about 1 year ago
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Eli Schiff
Sorry to hear about this, it's up there with getting your work stolen.
about 1 year ago