Dribbble - Dribbble Etiquette no. 1 by Jason Lynes

Pro Perceval McElhearn

Oh wow Jason, I didn't realize you used my comment to illustrate your point in your blog post and get all pissed about this. I didn't realize I was "pissing on the good work of others" by giving my opinion.

PS: I still think the yellow is too bright, but hey, that's just my opinion.

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People get pissed! It happens. August 09, 2010

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People get pissed!

by Perceval McElhearn

It happens.

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Pro Lee Salisbury

The worst are the 'OMG, i'm going go flip out over your design' comments people leave. Constructive comments are good, random design boner comments, leave those to yourself and press the 'like it' instead. ;)

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almost 2 years ago

Pro Liam McKay

So you don't like feedback, but you do like hitting the front page of Dribbble and being on TechCrunch. I'm not sure you're the best guy to be telling us how to behave.

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Elbbbow August 09, 2010

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by Chris Rhee

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Pro Naomi Atkinson

Dribbble is what you want it to be.

If you simply want to share great designs, portfolio pieces, or work in progress - then that's what you do. And you get a kick out of a few likes or positive comments.

If you want criticism, or others opinions on how to make something better, then just ask for it.

This way, everyone gets what they want, out of a service that we've all grown to love and appreciate.

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almost 2 years ago

Pro Lila Symons

I think it's ridiculous to call anyone who gives feedback a pompous ass. As long as someone is not overly critical, and takes the time to actually write constructive feedback, what's the big deal?

I appreciate, and thank those users who took the time to actually look at my work and comment on it. For me, dribbble is not about promoting myself, raising my ego, or getting the most likes. I want to share my process and random ideas I have, see what others think, and improve on them. I also see dribbble as a new place to potentially meet people who study calligraphy and have an interest in creating custom lettering like I do.

Please don't ruin the experience with negativity people!

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almost 2 years ago

Pro Justin Belcher

Can't say I agree at all. There are plenty of places on the internet to show your stuff off, but so few places to get honest and qualified feedback. Sure, unwarranted critique can be a little off-putting depending on your expectations for the shot (whether that's "not sure about this one, hope someone can get me off the fence" or "hey guys look what I did!"), but it's almost always useful.

Dribbble should be more than just saying "love the colors and texture" and tapping the like button.

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almost 2 years ago

Pro Jason Lynes

this thread is actually a great example, and proof that a lot of you aren't understanding the whole point. there are almost 100 comments now and a great deal of them say the same thing. are you saying something constructive? or are you chiming in just to hear your own voices? it's not the concept of feedback, it's what's being said.

again, etiquette. have some respect and chime in when it will really benefit people.

Etiquette hint no. 2 coming in the morning :)

almost 2 years ago

Anthony Garand

Wow, you really enjoy this popularity don't you?

The bullet's next to HINT no. 1 are off by a pixel. I measured. Also I think the q and u in Etiquette should have a little less spacing.

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Etiquettte I think this says it all, really. August 10, 2010

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Etiquettte

by Rob Foster

I think this says it all, really.

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Pro Kyle Steed

I think what saddens me the most about this, isn't whether it's the right thing to do or not, but that we can all cause such a fuss over something so silly instead of something of value.

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Peter Burdette

@Kyle: I totally agree with you. =\

almost 2 years ago

Pro Mac Tyler

Ummm..... http://cl.ly/1vQs

You are honestly just trolling, and I see you've gained a few followers today from it. Yay for you, I'd rather be well known for good design then calling other people assholes and pissing people off. I don't think anyone needs an announcement about how you feel and how that somehow relates to us. So at this point I'd rather we could just all move on from it. I think pretty much everyone is in agreement.

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Pro Mark Wyner

Dude. Dribbble is about feedback. You're posting your work to an open forum with other designers. To expect that you won't receive feedback is absolutely absurd. Clearly Dribbble is not the place for you if you're looking for a stage, rather than a conversation.

This is by far the unfriendliest post I've yet seen here. Have some respect for your peers, man.

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almost 2 years ago

Pro Shawn Borsky

Wow. I love this site. Can't remember I enjoyed reading comments like this. Also, I love people enjoying my work, but I also LOVE growing as a designer more. Isn't that what its all about? I spend 18 hours a day working on all sorts of design to get better and continue to create awesome work that I can be proud of.

Feedback is so essential for growing your skill, since sometimes even the smallest set of of fresh eyes can blow your mind. But, I feel you too.

I have a story, although it doesn't have cookies like @Rogie 's
When I was in school ( Savannah College of Art and Design). Every class encouraged critique and feedback, but people were a) not experienced artists and had no basis to give feedback and b) gave ridiculous unhelpful feedback that just made you mad because they had no idea what they were talking about and just made comments to do it.

Point being is this. Dribbble is not like that. We are not students with no skill and a chip on our shoulder. We are all here to enjoy good design and too help each other grow. We are all extremely talented professionals and we have the experience, skill and respect to give careful and useful feedback.

Btw, love the 1px diagonal texture in the shot.

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Josh Lane

I love how deeply ironic this shot is. Well done, sir.

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Pro Robbie Pearce

So, it's annoying and 'pompous' for people to continue with the whole point of this site and leave feedback, but you're allowed to go totally against the system wasting a whole shot on something that is quite clearly the most 'pompous' thing on this site. Who the hell are you to start waltzing around telling people how to use this site?

Oh, and if you hate it as much as you're making out - sod off.

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Pro Mark Collins

:~ /fuckingBlock
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:~ /fuckingDelete
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Bah. Functionality at Dribbble sucks.

almost 2 years ago

Pro Luke Beard

This is the internet, with open discussion environments like dribbbble people are going to say what they like (even if you don't ask for it). It's either good feedback or bad. just take it in and move on yeah?

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Pro Timothy Nice

I do usually post finished or near finished work, but only because I typically don't get the chance to work on a single design for more than a few hours before I have to move onto something else. But I LOVE feedback, even on finished client approved work since I will most certainly be designing something in the future that could benefit for that critique. (And thank goodness we don't all just judge each other based on Clients approving things...)

This site has been inspiring and has taking me from looking at just the overall design of something to looking at a design all the way down to the pixel (and I still have so far to go) So thank you all who have commented - you are why I post in the first place.

almost 2 years ago

Pro Andy Pickup

Design is subjective to each and every viewer (as are all creative products and processes), and what makes it so appealing to the masses is that everyone can have an opinion - qualified or not.

If you upload a shot and someone offers feedback - it's your call to act upon it, or not — there are few right or wrong answers in this game. If you expect positive feedback all the time, your tenure in this business will be short lived, you need to develop a thick skin and fast to avoid the red mist when a client or colleague criticizes your work.

Besides, how can you grow and develop your skills and talent if you never have anyone trash your work? I relish criticism, I'm all for the debase, it makes you think harder about the end user, the experience and most importantly makes me push myself and strive evermore for perfection, that said - beauty is in the eye of the beholder so you can't please everyone!

When your a kid and you fall off your bike, you dust yourself off and get right back on - the trick in this design game is to do the same, accept it and carry on.

almost 2 years ago

Pro Birgit Zimmermann

OMG!
this is the best design I have ever seen! it's perfect! how could one possibly make such a beautiful thing? it's out of this world! epic! nothing to add... ;)

we all post stuff that we are proud of, but I also love Dribbble for being the constructive community it is, and I love receiving critical feedback on my shots. aren't we all interested in growing as designers? doesn't criticism show that people look at your work for longer than a second and seriously appreciate your work?

there are a lot of communities out there where flattery is the way to go. let's keep on criticizing where criticism is due.

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almost 2 years ago

Ian Tearle

MEH. Doesn't make a difference if you add that you would like comments or not, I have found that unless you explicitly direct those you would value opinion from to the Dribbble post then unless your one of the elitist, you don't get a look in on the comments.
I also recall an excellent blog post by @BrendanDawes http://cmsurl.com/45 about the state of the UK web design industry, it caused a riot when it was written, and I think it still holds true, perpetuated even more with Dribbble, which is a shame, as I was hoping Dribbble might change that kind of ethos.
Granted, I dont expect to have 50 comments on every upload posted, but as a community of designers we should be encouraging each other to do better and excel rather than placing on a pedestal those who are inspiration to many already.
I say more constructive criticism, rather than making Dribbble into an

"incestuous gang-bang where nobody is ever offended"

And if you don't have anything to contribute constructively into the design process/improvement of the upload, I believe that is precisely what the "like" button is for??

almost 2 years ago

Pro Kyee

oddly this is starting to creep up a LOT on here, non designers giving feedback on things they don't know a thing about. A side effect of going public and giving out 20 invites month i suppose..

although really, honestly, does it matter that much who is commenting and criticizing your shots and work?

Two ways to look at I think..

1) Take the smallest criticism from even the people who have terrible portfolio's or none at all or even those people who aren't designers because everyone has an opinion anyway and its worth getting feedback from all corners, letting you decide who's advice to take or not.

2) http://grab.by/5Pq0

The main thing to remember here is that design is subjective, everyone has different tastes and no one design will please everyone. I'd say the bottom line comes down to 'take your clients interests on board above all'. If your client is not happy then you are doing something wrong. Everyone else? refer to example 2).

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