I just asked my wife what it said. I didn't give her any hint or context. After several guesses, she decided to go with "Brupals". She thought for a moment after thinking it was a B that it might be a D, but went back to B. She never got the r at the end.
That's just one view, but it does say that it's not quite obvious. Many of us on Dribbble have been following this design and our preconceptions may make it hard for us to judge readability - even though we're professional designers.
Have you thought about flipping the D so the loop is on the top? It's a little more common shape for a script D. That might complicate the first r but it's just a thought.
You know, I don't even think there is an issue with your rendering of the letterforms nearly as much as it is an issue with the actual word. When I see Drupalr even in plain type, it's not recognizeable.
Studies have proved that humans don't read individual letters most of the time - the brain identifies words by their shape. When a word is unfamiliar, the first task of the brain is to try and recognize it's shape. "Drupals" is a more sensical word than "Drupalr", so the brain wants to see "Drupals" first.
Again, greatly appreciate the feedback guys!! Particularly from the unpaid family focus groups ;) At this point, I'm probably over saturating everyone...and I know how hard it can be to remain objective.
Obviously, the name itself is tricky no matter how you slice it, and indeed that final 'r' still seems to be where most of the problems lie... That loop is kind of strange choice I'll admit, but I tried a number of options, and that actually seemed to be one of the clearer solutions. I was thinking I might bring the loop around > like the 'C' in Chandelier...
In any case, the non-script options definitely fix the legibility issues...but I'm still pretty set on making this guy work.
Great idea with asking an impartial eye. My girlfriend read it as 'Drupals' as well. When I told her it was an R she said it does look like one but you wouldn't expect it to be there - so it does seem that's the problem, not you :)
I love this, the type and treatment are sick... My only concern is the R... looked like an S to me, I thought it said DRUPALS... I only realized it was an R when I read the Project name, that's the only thing I would tweak... I LOVE everything else about this
@Alex - Thanks for the lookout buddy. I know what you're saying, but I think we're ok. Honestly, I doubt I'm the first person in the history of design to work out this sort of type / shading style... I was asked by another potential client soon after posting the initial version if I'd consider duplicating said style for another project (which of course I declined) But of course I can understand the appeal, and the potential for the style to serve as a source of inspiration... That being said, I know Nick's got skills, and I wouldn't think to knock him for any apparent similarity.
Well, given the timing of shots I think it is very likely that his shot was directly inspired by yours... in which case a bit of a credit would've not hurt. But perhaps this is just a very odd coincidence.
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Michael Spitz
Made a few tweaks on this guy here & there...
Hoping we're a doing a little better on readability?
over 1 year ago
Lovely. The "R" is a bit confusing to me, but maybe that's just me.
over 1 year ago
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Jonah Werre
YES!!
over 1 year ago
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Emir Ayouni
The "r" is better than ever... but yeah, like Steven said, just a bit confusing. I read it as "r", but still ;)
over 1 year ago
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Jared Granger
Diggin it Mike! The first R reads very smooth and the last is readable, but the last swoosh on the arm of the last R is a little confusing.
over 1 year ago
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Steve Lowtwait
I just asked my wife what it said. I didn't give her any hint or context. After several guesses, she decided to go with "Brupals". She thought for a moment after thinking it was a B that it might be a D, but went back to B. She never got the r at the end.
That's just one view, but it does say that it's not quite obvious. Many of us on Dribbble have been following this design and our preconceptions may make it hard for us to judge readability - even though we're professional designers.
over 1 year ago
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Steve Lowtwait
Have you thought about flipping the D so the loop is on the top? It's a little more common shape for a script D. That might complicate the first r but it's just a thought.
over 1 year ago
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Adam Mann
My roommate said Drupals. So close! That last curly really pulls my attention. So jealous!
over 1 year ago
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Jonah Werre
Just asked my wife and she had a hard time with the last "r" as well.
over 1 year ago
"Drupal" is such a weird word for most (English-speaking, at least) people. So Drupalr is even weirder. Not your fault. :)
over 1 year ago
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Robert McMann | Braeson
Love it. My concern is the secondary 'R'. I'm reading it as Drupals.
I still can't get over the halftone shadowing. I LOVE that!
over 1 year ago
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Joaquim Marques Nielsen
Totally loving the shapes, but it's kind of hard to make out what it says. "Drupalr" ?
over 1 year ago
totally progress, we're almost done, keep going.
over 1 year ago
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Jonathan Ogden
The previous version was perfect. As Brad said, it's a weird word to begin with, but for people who know Drupal, it will be fine. Great work!
over 1 year ago
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Joel Glovier
Lovely - but I still see Drupals.
You know, I don't even think there is an issue with your rendering of the letterforms nearly as much as it is an issue with the actual word. When I see Drupalr even in plain type, it's not recognizeable.
Studies have proved that humans don't read individual letters most of the time - the brain identifies words by their shape. When a word is unfamiliar, the first task of the brain is to try and recognize it's shape. "Drupals" is a more sensical word than "Drupalr", so the brain wants to see "Drupals" first.
Just my 2 cents.
over 1 year ago
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Joel Glovier
BTW - this shot and this shot really suit the wordform better. I had no issue reading either of them.
"Grid It" being by far my fav out of the two.
over 1 year ago
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Gerren Lamson
legible & tasty. nice evolution, spitz!
over 1 year ago
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Michael Spitz
Again, greatly appreciate the feedback guys!! Particularly from the unpaid family focus groups ;) At this point, I'm probably over saturating everyone...and I know how hard it can be to remain objective.
Obviously, the name itself is tricky no matter how you slice it, and indeed that final 'r' still seems to be where most of the problems lie... That loop is kind of strange choice I'll admit, but I tried a number of options, and that actually seemed to be one of the clearer solutions. I was thinking I might bring the loop around > like the 'C' in Chandelier...
In any case, the non-script options definitely fix the legibility issues...but I'm still pretty set on making this guy work.
over 1 year ago
I think it looks great. Totally legible too...
over 1 year ago
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Dan Burgess
Great idea with asking an impartial eye. My girlfriend read it as 'Drupals' as well. When I told her it was an R she said it does look like one but you wouldn't expect it to be there - so it does seem that's the problem, not you :)
over 1 year ago
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Vanessa Torrivilla
I love this, the type and treatment are sick... My only concern is the R... looked like an S to me, I thought it said DRUPALS... I only realized it was an R when I read the Project name, that's the only thing I would tweak... I LOVE everything else about this
over 1 year ago
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Anthony Lane
My wife to be read it as "Drupals."
over 1 year ago
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Alex Pankratov
http://dribbble.com/shots/272158-Sodus-Final - not sure what to make of it
over 1 year ago
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Michael Spitz
@John / Vanessa - Much appreciated guys!
@Dan - Cheers! Unfortunately I think that's inevitably going to be he case here, so I'll just have to try and make it as clear as a I can...
@Tony - Thanks for the survey my man ;)
@Alex - Thanks for the lookout buddy. I know what you're saying, but I think we're ok. Honestly, I doubt I'm the first person in the history of design to work out this sort of type / shading style... I was asked by another potential client soon after posting the initial version if I'd consider duplicating said style for another project (which of course I declined) But of course I can understand the appeal, and the potential for the style to serve as a source of inspiration... That being said, I know Nick's got skills, and I wouldn't think to knock him for any apparent similarity.
over 1 year ago
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Alex Pankratov
Well, given the timing of shots I think it is very likely that his shot was directly inspired by yours... in which case a bit of a credit would've not hurt. But perhaps this is just a very odd coincidence.
over 1 year ago